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Info-Hams Digest            Mon, 22 Nov 93       Volume 93 : Issue 1376

Today's Topics:
                         [Question] QSL route
                      Club by-laws and documents
                  Elmers are dead, god help us HAMS!
                         Fun with Radio Shack
                          Gary's invitation
                            Gary?s comment
                         Help with Icom W21AT
                      Info-Hams Digest V93 #1375
                   Mag Mount Paint Damage (3 msgs)
                      My son passed his Novice!
             OSU Amateur Radio Club Meeting Tonight 11/3
                      re: CONELRAD-what was it?
                      VHF/UHF in Ford SHO Taurus
                   WWV/WWVB/GPS Frequency Standard?

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 09:06:00
From: qualcomm.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!mv!leotech![e-mail]
Subject: [Question] QSL route
To: [e-mail]

>  This is a list of stations which I made qso in
>1991-1992 but I couldn't find QSL route. Please
>let me know if you have any info.
>A35MX
  via KQ1F.


 * Origin: NETIS Public Access Internet [phone] (1:132/189)

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 16:53:04
From: europa.eng.gtefsd.com!avdms8.msfc.nasa.gov!CUNNIDA.MSFC.NASA.GOV![e-mail]
Subject: Club by-laws and documents
To: [e-mail]

[Excuse the cross-post from r.r.a.p]

I have been elected as president of our local repeater association.  We have
about 370 members and manage four local repeaters.  The documents that govern
the group (articles of incorporation and by-laws) have been unchanged since
1969.  After filling some vacant offices, the group agreed that our governing
documents must be updated and I lead that committee as well.

I would appreciate any copies of governing documents (constitution, corporate
articles, by-laws, etc) from any other repeater associations or clubs.  The
chance to improve these documents comes all too seldom and we want to do a
good job!

The documents can be emailed (via internet), faxed, snail-mailed in any form
possible.  I will reimburse reasonable first class U.S. postage if so
requested (fax and mail charges are your burden).

Your help is appreciated by the North Alabama Repeater Association!


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D. Alan Cunningham, Principal Engineer, NASA Spacelink Project
Boeing Computer Support Services at NASA/MSFC      Phone:[phone]
Email: [e-mail]   Fax:[phone]
Snail Mail: 130 Roy Drive, Madison, AL  35758
NASA Spacelink  Modems:205-895-0028  Internet:spacelink.msfc.nasa.gov

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Date: 21 Nov 93 15:14:33 GMT
From: amusing!goldmine![e-mail]
Subject: Elmers are dead, god help us HAMS!
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Douglas J Renze) writes:
>
[ bandwidth cut ]

> Care to know some of my secrets for getting people to come back
>to me?  Listen to them talk about their interests, what they do, whether
>they work on the repeater or are always putting up antennas.  Then, when you
>have a question about their area of interest, give them a call!

[ bandwidth cut ]

Well ... sometimes I just don't want to talk to someone ... but that's
usually someone(s) in particular. I always respond to new calls and non-local
calls (or calls I don't recognise. Some people bore me and you can't make
me talk to them! And I monitor my favorite repeater ... By the time I've
heard XYZ tell the seventh person in one day about his or her new HT or
problem at work, I've pretty much got the story down pat ... I won't answer
a `cq' from XYZ right then.

Someone breaking into a qso is another story and Doug makes me think of
several of my pet peeves: The guy that breaks in as says "I don't know
what you were talking about or who it goes to, so who ever it goes to,
take it." (We always turn the frequency over to breaking stations ASAP.)
For god's sake, LISTEN FIRST! Find out what people are talking about and
decide if you want to be a part of _that_ conversation before you push
the PTT. It bugs me when people are talking about NAFTA or "is elvis dead"
or whatever and someone breaks into the middle of it with: "so, I got
a new HT today..." Rarely (but sometimes!) does it work when five people
are talking about three different things. When I gets to five people
talking about five things, I clear out. :-) And of course when someone
new comes in and starts a 2-way with someone leaving the rest of the
group out, that ticks me off too. I don't think a conversation has to go
in strict rotation order, but after two people have gone on for 3 or 4
times, I usualy clear (often having to double with one of them.)

Forget about EM propogation theory and practice (and tuning finals,)
new-comers and OT's, novices and extra's alike might benefit from
some `conversation' theory.

>Thank you again! :-)
>
>73, Doug
>
>PS, care to know my experience?  "ELMERS AREN'T DEAD, THEY'VE JUST ALL MOVED
> TO THE INTERNET!"  I've come across so many people willing to give
> me advice:  Gary Coffman, [e-mail], Jim Kerman (KR1S, the
> guy who writes for QST), and so many others in places ranging from
> Canada to Finland (yes!  I got the CERT info in the mail, but can't
> find your e-mail address!  Tnx.).  Good places to check out:
> here, [e-mail] (an excellent place!), [e-mail],
> [e-mail] (I think), just to name a few.
>
>Peace, es 73 -- Keep looking!  bad experience locally doesn't mean bad all
>over.

Oh, they're still there, but I think they all hide on 220 and 1.2 gig.

PS: `Clique' repeaters are easy to break. Get five friends and start making
your own Q's on it. (And of course, talk to the new guys that pop up ...)

 - Ed.
--
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  Ed Taychert   | Disclaimer:  I pay for the machine, I pay for the
  [e-mail] | connection, surely I'll pay for writing this too.

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 21:47:35 GMT
From: news.cerf.net!pagesat!netsys!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!news.ans.net!malgudi.oar.net!picker![e-mail]
Subject: Fun with Radio Shack
To: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
After reading all about "FWRS" I went in to my local RS.  They encouraged me to
have a catalog.  On my purchase of an swr meter (later) they very rapidly
opened the catalog and pulled out the discount coupon for me.
ah well, what hamnet et al can do
sign me new tech+
john KB8QHS
Opinions expressed here are neither my company's nor my wife's,

>
> [e-mail]  typed this about Re: Fun with Radio Shack
>
>
> R>A catalog is a form of advertising. Its purpose is to make people
> R>aware of your products and boost sales.  If you make people
> R>pay for it, far fewer people will have one.  That defeats its
> R>purpose.  Tandy might as well start making people pay for the monthly
> R>sales flyers instead of asking us for our address, so they
> R>can send it to us.
>
> Also many people have not realized that this whole 'event' was a
> publicity stunt. It got more curious people to walk into their local
> Radio Shack than ever before.
>
> With all the discussion about this lately....it seems that they have
> succeeded in doing exactly what they planned.
>
>
> Ken
>
>                    Internet: [e-mail]
>                AX.25 Packet: AA1DR @ K1UGM.MA.USA.NA
>
> ---
>   CmpQwk #UNREG  UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY

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Date: 23 Nov 93 03:10:42 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Gary's invitation
To: [e-mail]

> From: ogicse!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu
> !crcnis1.unl.edu!unlinfo.unl.edu![e-mail]

>  Ever get out this way? Call me on 2m.

>  73, Gary

Hard to tell, Gary.  Reading the above wherefrom address, I guess I have
to ask, "Where's here?"

Paul Marsh    N0ZAU   Omaha

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 16:34:07 -0700
From: orca.es.com!cnn.sim.es.com!msanders.sim.es.com![e-mail]
Subject: Gary?s comment
To: [e-mail]

In article <2ckegi$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Gary
McDuffie Sr) wrote:

> [e-mail] writes:
>

>  >............... perhaps there should be classes in how to USE
>  >amateur radio.  Now, THAT would be a good class.  How about it,
>  >local clubs?  Do these exist?  No license-like test needed, but a
>  >snazzy wall-hanging would be a lovely second thing to hang in the
>  >new shack.
>
>  >Paul Marsh   N0ZAU   Omaha
>
> What an excellent idea, Paul.  It might even spark
> some of the old fuddy-duddy clubs into doing something new.
>
> 73, Gary

What a great idea!!  Sometimes even the good and great clubs miss this idea
of having classes on radio operation.  I have had to do mine without much
benefit of Elmers or club classes; but I have read a lot and listened,
listened, listened to many folks on the air.  It is not hard to distinguish
between most of the poor versus the good operating procedures; although
some poor practices can be picked up because a lot of people in a "local"
group operate that way.

When I joined the local club, they have a 30 min session for all new
members prior to the monthly meeting starting, basically to discuss local
repeaters and practices and procedures for them.  Not much for HF at all,
but at least it was a start.  I would encourage more clubs doing this.
Lets start the "WAVE" on this subject.

Milt
--
=========================================================================

Opinions, thoughts, &cetera are my own (when I can remember them).

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Date: 22 Nov 93 20:17:35 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Help with Icom W21AT
To: [e-mail]

I'm a new owner of an ICOM W21AT HT.  The "skip" function doesn't seem to
do what I think it should do -- am I misunderstanding the situation?

My goal is to put several "continuously on" frequencies into the memory
channels, and mark those memory channels as "skip" channels.  These would
be such as NOAA Weather, FAA ATIS, etc.  I can put them into memory, mark
the memory channels as "skip", and when the scanning function is working,
the radio stops and receives those channels.  Is this normal, or is my
radio defective?

Masking doesn't seem to be a useful option, because the frequency display
remains blank, and I'd rather not have to unmask and remask several of
those anonymous channels until I find which one I want to listen to for a
minute.

Paul Marsh   N0ZAU   Omaha

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Date: 22 Nov 93 20:06:03 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Info-Hams Digest V93 #1375
To: [e-mail]

Hi All,

Add me to those who are willing to work with novice CWers.  I'm confortable
at about 10 wpm but am willing to go much slower to help others.  Work
10/15/20/40/80.  Anyone suggesting a net?

Earl Fleck
KB7QVY

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Date: 22 Nov 93 08:15:07 GMT
From: ogicse!hp-cv!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!hpuerca.atl.hp.com!hpuerca![e-mail]
Subject: Mag Mount Paint Damage
To: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]> David Van Nuys <[e-mail]> writes:

>I notice that my two-meter mag mount is leaving rings on the paint of my
>trunk.  Has anyone got any tips for preserving the paint and still using
>a mag mount?

a)Use it on the roof of your car?

b)Drill appropriate hole in roof and install top portion
of antenna onto the firm, non-moving roof mount. Use base to
hold floppy containing your latest backup onto the side of
your metal file-cabinet.

c)OK, I own a mag mount, but I only use it sitting still;
for normal mobile use I rely on my roof mounted NMO 1/4 wave
whips.

Enjoy, Ed Humphries N5RCK
Hewlett Packard NARC Atlanta TX
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 18:56:04 GMT
From: psinntp!gdstech!gdstech![e-mail]
Subject: Mag Mount Paint Damage
To: [e-mail]

 Rain driven dirt gets under the mag mounts, and will
start scratching the paint. So, when you remove the mount,
don't drag it, just slowly rock it until it pops off.
Then clean the bottem of the mount, and the roof, real good.
I put 4 layers of good car wax on that part of the roof before
putting the magnet on the roof.
--
*-----------------------------------------------------------*
*     Pat Masterson   D12-25  | KE2LJ@KC2FD                 *
*     Grumman Data Systems    | 516-346-6316.               *
*     Bethpage, NY 11746      | [e-mail]     *

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Date: 23 Nov 93 01:16:59 GMT
From: ogicse!hp-cv!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!srgenprp![e-mail]
Subject: Mag Mount Paint Damage
To: [e-mail]

David Van Nuys ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I notice that my two-meter mag mount is leaving rings on the paint of my
: trunk.  Has anyone got any tips for preserving the paint and still using
: a mag mount?

1)  Remove the mag-mount whenever it is not in use.
2)  Don't always mount it in the same location.  Put it in a different
    spot each time you re-install it.
3)  Be careful not to slide it when removing or installing.  To remove it,
    tilt it first (so only one edge of the magnet is touching) and then
    pull straight up.
4)  Keep the bottom of the magnet clean.  Expecially check for any
    metal filings that can scratch the paint.

AL N1AL

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Date: 22 Nov 93 19:55:21 GMT
From: das.wang.com!wang![e-mail]
Subject: My son passed his Novice!
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Cliff Sharp) writes:

>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Dave Bushong) writes:
>>Last weekend my son (age 13) passed his Novice written!  I just had
>>to tell someone.

>   Congrats to you both!  :-)  I passed mine at 14, and my father had one
>suggestion I'm glad I took; laminate the original license in plastic
>(preferably have a jiffy-print or like company do it for you) so you'll
>have it forever.  Not only is it a nice keepsake, but it also provides
>proof of licensing when, at age 38, he wants to join the Old Farts' Club.
>:-)

Hey!

I got my license at age 13, and I'm 38 now, and I'm not an old fart! :)

But I wish I had my original also.  Good idea.  I'll suggest it to him.

--
Dave Bushong, Wang Laboratories, Inc.   Amateur Radio Callsign KZ1O
Project Leader, Recognition products    kz1o@n0ary.#noca.ca.na
Internet: [e-mail]             ARRL VE    //   W5YI VE

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Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1993 06:56:49 PST
From: news.cerf.net![e-mail]
Subject: OSU Amateur Radio Club Meeting Tonight 11/3
To: [e-mail]

Thanks for the help.  I have located Internet addresses for Chris Holmes &
Jon Cassie.

Scott KD6FY

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 19:23:18 GMT
From: qualcomm.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!udel!news.intercon.com!psinntp!gdstech!gdstech![e-mail]
Subject: re: CONELRAD-what was it?
To: [e-mail]

 It was assumed, after WWII, that evil missiles from Russia could
be set up to home in on certain radio stations. They could locate
certain cities by knowing the frequency of their major radio
station. There werent a lot of stations in those days. So, in
an alert, ALL broadcast stations wouls shut down, and we would
listen to 640 or 1240 for intructions. They figured, that having
dozens of stations on those 2 frequencies, all over America, that
homing in would be impossible. CONELRAD stood for
CONtrol of ELectromagnetic RADiation, if memory serves me.

--
*-----------------------------------------------------------*
*     Pat Masterson   D12-25  | KE2LJ@KC2FD                 *
*     Grumman Data Systems    | 516-346-6316.               *
*     Bethpage, NY 11746      | [e-mail]     *

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Date: 18 Nov 1993 19:49:58 GMT
From: koriel!male.EBay.Sun.COM!twobeers![e-mail]
Subject: VHF/UHF in Ford SHO Taurus
To: [e-mail]

I am looking for info from anyone who has installed a VHF/UHF radio in a Ford SHO Taurus.
I recently purchased one and I would like to install a radio in it but I have been reading
about some manufacturers not recommending this.  My manual for the Taurus is kind of
vague on the subject of RF equipment and mostly concerned with Cel-Phone stuff.

Basicly I need to know if it has been done and if so how did it work(every thing
functioning normally at full power) or not(did the car  suddenly explode in flames
when the transmitter is keyed).

Thanks
Keith
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
|  Keith E. Thompson  KA6LRR  | [e-mail]  (Internet)or |
|  Sun Microsystems, Inc.     | Keith.Thompson@EBay        (Internet)   |
|  1210 California Circle     | 408-276-3464             (Phone-work)   |
|  Milpitas, CA               | 510-782-0974             (Phone-home)   |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Date: 22 Nov 93 06:33:06 GMT
From: ogicse!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!mrtnt.ntrs.com!tntvax![e-mail]
Subject: WWV/WWVB/GPS Frequency Standard?
To: [e-mail]

Does anyone know of any fairly simple ways to synch into a frequency standard
such as WWV, WWVB or GPS to extract a signal for frequency calibration
purposes?

Please answer direct:   [e-mail]

de W9RS

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 14:35:42 -0700
From: orca.es.com!cnn.sim.es.com!msanders.sim.es.com![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <2c46b1$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>et
Subject : Re: What do I do now/

Gary
> Besides, Doug is new. Rather than criticizing the licensing process,
> perhaps you might suggest how he can tune up his new radio.
>
> 73,
> laura VE7LDH


Right On Laura!  Yea!!!!
--
=========================================================================

Opinions, thoughts, &cetera are my own (when I can remember them).

Milt

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Date: 22 Nov 1993 11:50:54 -0800
From: olivea!apple.com!apple.com![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>
Subject : Re: CW QSO's, New hams who need practice read this!!

[e-mail] (Dave Hodge) writes:

>Add me to the CW contact list.  At the moment I'm limited to 10/15/20/40,
>but I hope to add 80 soon.  My comfort level is about 10 wpm, but slower
>is fine, of course.  All I ask in return is a QSL card if your contact
>is a new state/mode or state/band for me.
>
>Send mail, and we can set up a schedule.


Add yet another one to the list.  Email me if you would like me to
listen for you on 15m.  I will be using a keyboard to send so as
to not confuse you with my horrible fist (worse than my accent when
I speak English :-), so you will get W1AW quality sending :-).
Don't worry about _your_ fist, I use wetware to copy CW.

Is om AA6AD still reading this list?  Last time he wrote something,
some inconsiderate fellow flamed his spelling, and I haven't seen him
on this newslist since.  He appears on the Novice bands all the
time to work slow morse.  Heard him on again during the CW Sweepstakes
when both of us were working in the Novice bands.

73,

Kok Chen, AA6TY    [e-mail]
Apple Computer, Inc.

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 16:19:57 GMT
From: pacbell.com!att-out!cbfsb!cbnews!cbnewst!cbnewsm![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <2cggce$[e-mail]>loft.
Reply-To : [e-mail]
Subject : Re: CW QSO's, New hams who need practice read this!!

In article <2cggce$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Garry Howard) writes:
|> In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (jeffrey.n.jones) writes:
|> |> In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Warren E. Lewis) writes:
|> |> >
|> |> Condensed version
|> |> .... I volunteer to help ...
|> |>
|> |> I think I started something here! 8-)  C'mon let's see some others
|> |> offer to help too! Can you all say "Spirit of ham radio"?
|> |>
|>
|> Sign me up. I will also offer to schedule CW QSOs with anyone who wants

Me too!  I am still rather slow myself (8-10 WPM) and would like to upgrade
so I need the help too.  I've made about 25 CW contacts since my first about
a year ago.  I've been licensed since 1978 so talk about a slow starter!  :-)
Actually, I laid low for about 8 years before dusting off my stuff and
building my first REAL ham shack two years ago.  Boy, am I glad I did, I'm
really having a ball!
 73 de Glenn

--

  Glenn D. O'Donnell, N3BDA       Internet:      [e-mail]
  AT&T Bell Laboratories          Amateur Radio: n3bda@n3dpu.#epa.pa.usa.na
  Allentown, PA                   Home QTH:      Palmerton, PA (Grid FN20eu)

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